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3%
  



stomper 4:03 Thu Apr 28
English Civil War
So we've had the royalists, but where are the songs of the Parliament, the independents, the weirdos and the sects?
Dont tell me they were silent, or did a restored monarch suppress them all?

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normannomates 4:29 Thu Apr 28
Re: English Civil War
Let God arise
Let his enemies be scattered.

Thomas Fairfax
Cromwells main man..and better one.

stomper 4:45 Thu Apr 28
Re: English Civil War
Words and tune?

Chigwell 5:00 Thu Apr 28
Re: English Civil War
Cromwell's lot were pretty boring Puritans, not given to fanciful singing.

normannomates 5:10 Thu Apr 28
Re: English Civil War
I'd rather be a roundhead than a cavalier...to the tune of I'd rather be **** than a ***.
Fairfax was ahead of his time.

Private Dancer 5:36 Thu Apr 28
Re: English Civil War
I think it will be a close game on Saturday.

joe royal 7:52 Thu Apr 28
Re: English Civil War
Safe European home was a better track.

Sydney_Iron 9:31 Thu Apr 28
Re: English Civil War

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhkwj85VzcE

frank marker 9:53 Thu Apr 28
Re: English Civil War
didn't they bring out a single, Dog train?

pdbis 10:07 Thu Apr 28
Re: English Civil War
R.I.P England.According to the last two Prime Ministers the country of England has failed to exist unlike Scotland,Ireland & Wales.

ironsofcanada 10:33 Thu Apr 28
Re: English Civil War
Chigwell 5:00 Thu Apr 28

The actual New Model Army sang a lot more than the Royalist armies they faced. Not very exciting songs though: hymns often the Psalms of David.

For sure, the 149th Psalm which in part says:

"Let the high praises of God be in their mouths And a two-edged sword in their hand. To bind their kings with chains, And their nobles with links of iron"

Royalist poet Charles Cotton said

Ev'n like unto the dismal yowl,
When tristful dogs at midnight howl ;
Or like the dirges that, through nose,
hum out to daunt their pagan foes,
When holy round-heads go to battle ;
With such a yell did Carthage rattle

stomper

The Royalist side had by far the more memorable songs but I will keep looking when I have time. Royalist a one to close that should enjoyed on here. The Rump Parliament is the object of the last line.

“Old Noll [Cromwell] when we talked of Magna Charta,
Did prophesy well we should all smart-a;
And now we have found his Rump‟s Magna Farta"

joe royal 10:57 Thu Apr 28
Re: English Civil War
frankmarker

The Levellers did a song called dog train.

frank marker 11:41 Thu Apr 28
Re: English Civil War
Indeed.

Northern Sold 11:45 Thu Apr 28
Re: English Civil War
Used to be in the Sealed Knot as a kid... good laugh... ws a drummer boy in a Roundhead Pike Regiment called Meldrums... drunk my first cider then

The Stoat 11:59 Thu Apr 28
Re: English Civil War
A marvellous cd by Rev Hammer includes guests The Levellers/Maddy Prior and others (and an appropriate surname as well) ;-)

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/iCcUQaXiUKo/hqdefault.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_z7J2xirJE

DukeofDevo 12:01 Thu Apr 28
Re: English Civil War
It would be quite the choice today if you had to choose between being a Parliamentarian or a Royalist

I think I'd have to side with Liz and her lot get the MPs snouts out of the trough!

Gloucester Iron 1:58 Thu Apr 28
Re: English Civil War
...Is a very underrated single by The Clash.

I actually prefer the album it's lifted from, Give 'Em Enough Rope, to their much lauded debut, with it's opening track, Safe European Home, just nudging out White Man in Hammersmith Palais, as my favourite track of theirs.

Carry on...

The Kronic 2:04 Thu Apr 28
Re: English Civil War
Even I'd have opposed Cromwell. He was the Christian Taliban - killjoy cunt

stomper 7:37 Thu Apr 28
Re: English Civil War
People's positions change in a civil war/revolution. Yeah, I'm sure there were lats of psalms sung by Parliament

stomper 2:03 Fri Apr 29
Re: English Civil War
What about the sects maybe?

gph 5:33 Fri Apr 29
Re: English Civil War
I'm watching something else, but I'm going to give this a look sometime:

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b046cs03

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